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What ya got planed? Bigger? Or better within the same walls?

Better within the same walls. I'm stuck with what I've got because of the City... some stupid regulation concerning the ratio of house to garage.

The floor, walls, ceiling, storage/organization, and lighting are all under revision.

John D wrote:

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Better within the same walls. I'm stuck with what I've got because of the City... some stupid regulation concerning the ratio of house to garage.

The floor, walls, ceiling, storage/organization, and lighting are all under revision.

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 If you are stuck with the foot print, can you go higher... 2 story would be helpful for storage.

LED lighting, they will pay for themselves on energy savings.

In-floor heat ??

Hey, maybe a family room addition to the house first and then increase the garage size...

-- Edited by Lost in the 60s on Tuesday 7th of January 2014 08:23:25 PM

As am sure you know even a large space becomes congested when you start remoding, it quickly becomes like doing a bathroom with so much to do in such a small space.
My frustration with my current garage upgrade is every time I go to do something I need to move five things. Yesterday I hung one piece of sheetrock on the wall, it took three hours. Two hours and fifty minutes for prep and cleanup and 10 minutes to cut and hang the rock.
Clear everything out the garage, work on what needs to be done, only pick up materials when you’re ready for them and forget about parking a car in there until it’s done.
Call in your markers from those you’ve helped in the past and get some folks over there to help with the big stuff.

John D wrote:

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Way early on when this was a zygote I was looking around in the shop and thought "what am I gonna do with wall this cra.... uh, stuff"...

One of my biggest needs out there is proper/better attic insulation, update & re-zone the lighting, then the replacement of the ceiling sheetrock (probably with tin). So, I'm committed to emptying the space.
I'm thinking of renting one of those "Pods" containers, and having it spotted on the turn-out behind the house. Secure and dry - and if packed properly, I can still get to "stuff" if I need to. They're a little spendy @ $140 a month (plus $80 each way for delivery/pickup), but I think it's the way to go.

(Also a few "Bagsters" and a garage sale to thin-out the "crap"!)

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 Seems a storage facility would be much less expensive. Is there not one close enough to be practical when you need something out of it ?

If you have all the materials on hand, how long would it take a few people to get it up and ready ?

I foresee a full Green Mary load at the brunch..

It's been a long time since I had a storage unit. The rates have gone up a "bit".

If you could get by with 1 month or 2 at the most, it wouldn't be too bad.

Build a storage shed with the money you would spend on renting a pod

Hey, you have 2 empty bedrooms in the house, don't ya ??

John D wrote:

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The kids haven't moved out YET... and they have a tendancy to show up from time to time, needing a place to sleep, do laundry, raid the 'fridge, hog bandwidth...

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 Sounds all too familiar. Mine's a senior and will be 18 in a couple months.

two words:

urinal space

A different two words... floor drain

Not a bunch of changes, mostly better utilization of space. Priority is to rip down the existing ceiling (before it falls down), and properly vent and insulate the attic space. While this is happening the lighting electrical will be re-run, and new fixtures installed (with better zoning of lighting, and task lighting in mind).
Phase II - As/if funds allow, have the floor repaired or replaced.
Phase III - More cabinets, real shelving, and another bench along the back wall.

A door out the back really isn't feasible. The floor level of the garage is 3-1/2 ft. above grade back there, and the yard shed is there too.

Before I add windows, I'd rather look into one of those screen kits for the overhead door...

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dashboard wrote:

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Ya just need a P bucket and some camper chemicals.

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 Tranny funnel and a hole in the wall? Maybe a small flap over the inside hole to keep the cold out?

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 1/2 acre of dense woods....

Kind of cold on the winky right now...

Thought about that, but I'd rather do all the demo & nasty stuff over the old sh*tty floor. Then the sheetrock dust & other debris doesn't get "ground into" the new floor surface.

I'm thinking about doing "tin" on the ceiling rather than 'rock. The cost is a bit more per SF, but there's no taping/mudding/priming/painting - so it's a wash... and I won't have to nail in "cripples" between the 24" OC trusses to support the new 'rock. The original owner/builder did not do this, and the 'rock has sagged and popped through the screws via its own weight along every seam! (If it wasn't for the garage door track deflecting it, a 4' x 6' piece would have clobbered Sheryl's new Taurus about a month ago!!)

John, I saw this stcloud.craigslist.org/mat/4383017758.html and if you look around you can find some extra tin or call around to some of the shed builders for scrap. years back I ran into a guy that they had extra pieces of tin and a friend picked that up cheap. He had to clean and paint the walls white but saved a ton of money and had left over tin as well maybe an option. How about bracing the rafters and installing a stairway for storage?
I have been replacing the CFL bulbs that my wife bought with LEDs and they are far superior. The brand new CFL and LED bulbs rated at the same wattage are so different for lumens it is not funny. The CFL in the basement turned on still takes so long to come up to brightness it is a irritating. My boys have been working in the basement with me and now know what garbage CFL lights are after seeing them side by side with the LEDs.

Well, the attic stair went in this past weekend, and the attic crap is now occupying the space where Green Mary docks (so she's outside). "Blackie" is gonna have to stay at Nana's until this deal is over.

Most of the stuff is "memorabilia" - tubs & boxes of family trinkets & albums - saved for the kids to claim and learn their lineage. Easter weekend will be the sorting session.

We're gonna rent a storage locker. Between the garage crap and the "bring it home from College" stuff from 2 kids I can't have this stuff cluttering around, and can't lose the vehicle space a "Pod" would take.

John D wrote:

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Well, the attic stair went in this past weekend, and the attic crap is now occupying the space where Green Mary docks (so she's outside). "Blackie" is gonna have to stay at Nana's until this deal is over.

Most of the stuff is "memorabilia" - tubs & boxes of family trinkets & albums - saved for the kids to claim and learn their lineage. Easter weekend will be the sorting session.

We're gonna rent a storage locker. Between the garage crap and the "bring it home from College" stuff from 2 kids I can't have this stuff cluttering around, and can't lose the vehicle space a "Pod" would take.

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Sounds like domestic inventory to me. There is a garage rule that forbids placing, storing, stashing or hiding domestic items of household inventory within garage space.  That is why you need a door in the back of the garage to provide access to your new larger storage shed.   

I know you can’t just toss siblings possessions to the curb like x-wife’s do but you do need to make it painful for them.  Sort it out and move it to their respective bedrooms so when they come home to visit they have to step over it,  walk around it, move it to go to bed and move it again if they get up to use the head;  they call it tough love.   

By the way SPIN, your failure to document this project with photographs is noted.

When we bought our first house, the rule was she could do anything inside, I get the garage.... as long as her car fits easily.

Second house: same rule, a little bigger garage too. I had some overhead space and a shed, so she could use some of that.

third House: even more garage space, a little bigger shed, and short of some blankets and a chest freezer, a couple sleds, and 2 kids bikes, I have successfully kept her stuff out. I consider that a personal victory.

The only things in the attic of my shop are a headboard and a small table that we just don't have any room for in the house.  The table was my grandmother's, and waiting for when one of the kids has a need for it. 

I did have 4 stackable outdoor patio chairs in the shop during the winter.  Does that count?

Couldn't pass up sharing some of these... While digging around in some boxes, I came across some catalogs from Sears Roebuck, and Montgomery Wards. From 1943!!

Mens dress shoes $5.75, Mens trousers $5.98 to $9.50, Dress shirts $1.98... then toward the back of the catalog...

 

That's cool John.  I didn't know you could buy engine parts from the catalog houses at that time.

It's interesting that you had to use up the coffee and sugar ration coupon's to buy shoes during WWII. 

My Dad used to call Montgomery Ward 'Monkey Ward'.  I think it was a somewhat common phrase back in the day.

My Model T has some old Wards tires on it.

Two trailer loads of totes to the storage locker yesterday... and a bagster on the drive for the "Ain't seen the light of day for 5+ years, not family memorabilia, it's OUTTA HERE"!

"Save Big Money" has it in stock in 12' and 14' pieces - leaves me 6" overlap in the middle...

Got all of the sheetrock & vapor barrier down tonight... now to remove the 387456 screws & nails on the joists.