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At 4pm today my son gave me a new "buff n shine" project...

Luckily nobody was hurt, but he's in some deep doo-doo as he had passengers on a provisional license.



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Wow, ouch. At least he stayed with the shiny side up.



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Glad everyone's o.k.  Look's like he got both ends of it...

My first winter driving the '71 Malibu when I was 16, I lied to my parents and went back to the town we used to live in on a Sun. afternoon, and it started to snow and get icy.  I was going down the main drag (it was a small town...) and a farmer in an old Ford pickup decided to cross it.  He couldn't get any traction but got far enough that the drivers corner of my front bumper dented in the whole drivers side fender on his bed.  No damage to the Chevelle at all!  Needless to say... I was in deep doo doo for about a year with my parents!  Imgonna



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Glad no one was hurt. Getting busted by the cop for having passengers will be a tough lesson.

If you have comp on the truck it may be going down the road. More damage than insurance will repair.



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I haven't gotten under the front-end yet, but it's a given that the trans cooler bit it. Don't know about the A/C condenser. No coolant leaks. It still runs fine, I backed it off the stretcher and have it parked in the turnout at home.

The bytch is it was a diagonal/sliding hit, but at 90 deg's to the fence. The frame horns are folded over flat to the driver's side, and the passenger fender has a wrinkle in it... so it may be "tweaked" a bit. Both air-bags deployed. (Picture 1, from moving from left to right) As far as the PD & I recreated it, he punched the fence (big hole), then it spun CCW on the shoulder and hit the fence again with the RR (little hole), then completed the CCW 360 back onto the street.



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Lost in the 60s wrote:

Glad no one was hurt. Getting busted by the cop for having passengers will be a tough lesson.

If you have comp on the truck it may be going down the road. More damage than insurance will repair.

And... unfortunately your friendly insurance agent will be giving you a call that your rate is going up since he's a 16 year old male with an accident.  banghead

Our daughter had an accident when she was 17, and her rate doubled and that was with her attending a safety class... it went back to the original amount when she turned 21.

We only have liability on our 19 year old son's '98 Jeep Cherokee, and it's still double the rate of what mine is on a 2003 vehicle with full coverage.  And, he gets a good student discount and knock on wood, hasn't had any incidents.  rolleyes



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Looks like it got into the radiator and transmission cooler as well...

If it's a "total", find out what the buy-back is on it. With some used parts and ignoring some of the cosmetic damage, it could be put back on the road pretty cheap.

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I don't know how bad Ford's airbags are, but GM's will make you wince. GM's also require a densing and diagnostic unit replacement when one blows. Some GM's also have pyrotechnic pre-tensioners for the seat belts that blow when the air bag goes to help hold you in place by pulling that seat belt tight for you.

The front end stuff is pretty stright forward, even the frame ends are usually replaceable. Keystone will probably have replacement bumpers and pads, grille, lower bumper deflector, lamps, braces and brackets, radiator (or call 1-800 radiator) Most insurance will pay for used sheetmetal. I would leave the box side alone if you can stand it since that's more labor intensive if you're paying out of pocket or doing it yourself. Make sure the gate opens and closes easily too.

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Since the frame horns are bent over, the entire frame will have a diamond to it and will probably not align properly. With the air bags deployed, it will most likely require a salvage title if it is repaired. The place where I now work is a frame shop specializing in major crash damage and can straighten the frame and replace the horns IF you get to that point with it.

 



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Werent you trying to sell it John? Maybe its best to get the money from the insurance and let it go to them.



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What most people don't realize is that history has a nasty habit of repeating itself, and apples don't fall far from the tree... case in point:

(I blame this guy - dang gearhead genes....)



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Well look at it this way, at his age we had less fear of the cops then we did our fathers when getting in trouble. Cops will only throw you in Jail for a set amount of time, Dad is going to kill you and what ever is left MOM will rip up and spit out. Yes dealing with cops and insurance for a short time is not bad compared to what you live with after from the parents.

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Well if John Jr does need a cheap ride this is where I bought my last 2 and they have a more then a few he should easily get another 100,000 plus out of. Yes older cars but they do have the what a young kid needs good MPG.

http://www.blrepairables.com/List.aspx?Type=1

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Is this what we call "one of life’s lessons? Fortunately no one got hurt but I’ll bet his eyeballs got big.

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Well look at it this way, at his age we had less fear of the cops then we did our fathers when getting in trouble. Cops will only throw you in Jail for a set amount of time, Dad is going to kill you and what ever is left MOM will rip up and spit out. Yes dealing with cops and insurance for a short time is not bad compared to what you live with after from the parents.

It was 30 years ago when I bent the '51, and I've had that long to think about how I was NOT going to do the same thing(s) my Dad did to me...

- Leave it in the driveway for 1-1/2 years as a reminder.

- At every possibility mention "If we had a truck we could..."

- Countless other P1ss-ant digs and reminders... that continued until the day he died.

Sh8t happens, junior drivers get in accidents, and all we can hope for is they learn something, realize that actions DO have consequences, and to apply what they have now learned. I'm not even the slightest bit angry about this, however I am disappointed in John that he ignored the passenger restriction. We'll see what the Judge says in Court, and find out then just how long & how much he'll have to pay for that lapse in judgement.

 



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John D wrote:

It was 30 years ago when I bent the '51, and I've had that long to think about how I was NOT going to do the same thing(s) my Dad did to me...

- Leave it in the driveway for 1-1/2 years as a reminder.

- At every possibility mention "If we had a truck we could..."

- Countless other P1ss-ant digs and reminders... that continued until the day he died.

Sh8t happens, junior drivers get in accidents, and all we can hope for is they learn something, realize that actions DO have consequences, and to apply what they have now learned. I'm not even the slightest bit angry about this, however I am disappointed in John that he ignored the passenger restriction. We'll see what the Judge says in Court, and find out then just how long & how much he'll have to pay for that lapse in judgement.

 

Don't ya love how they NEVER let you forget ...banghead

Any chance a "certain disregard for the rules" may have been passed on genetically too....razz

 



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Probably peer pressure and adolesent "bulletproofness"... never had a (serious) trust breach or problem before this.

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John, nice to know our dads were cut from the same cloth, you forgot the ability to beat the hell out of you worse then the meanest kid at school in less time.

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Life happens, roll with it. Just glad noone was hurt.

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John D wrote:

Sh8t happens, junior drivers get in accidents, and all we can hope for is they learn something, realize that actions DO have consequences, and to apply what they have now learned. I'm not even the slightest bit angry about this, however I am disappointed in John that he ignored the passenger restriction. We'll see what the Judge says in Court, and find out then just how long & how much he'll have to pay for that lapse in judgement.

 

 That's a great attitude John.

I have 3 boys 2 of them had accidents within the first 6 months of driving. Neither because they were goofing off. POne was weather related and the other someone ran a stop sign. I agree with you it is better to let them know you're not happy about what happens, make them accountable for it and then move on. Having a good relationship with your kids is worth alot more than a vehicle.

I know I did way more than my share to P off my dad but he always got over it and we get along great now.



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I like the idea of keeping the truck parked there as a reminder.

You know, with a good kid using the word disappointed goes a LONG way. Maybe even more than actual punishment.



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how long can you keep a ford parked in driveway-- lol

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I like the idea of keeping the truck parked there as a reminder.

Yeah, but when it's there for 1-1/2 years, and used for mental abuse, it becomes more than a gentle "reminder" - it becomes destructive.

It'll sit there until we get the verdict from insurance, then it'll either get junked, fixed, or sold for salvage.



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