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Tim H · Mega Poster

Lizard Skin

Dan Williams · Active Member

Derek used it to paint the underside of his car. I remember him saying something about it being real hard to wash and keep clean. Probably would work great for what you are looking at.

Lost in the 60s · President

Tim, I mentioned it because of the problems I've read about the mats coming loose from sun heat and falling on the headliner. I haven't used it but would like to try it when I am ready to replace one of my headliners. The original fiberglass holds moisture and can cause rust. This seems like a good alternative with better coverage and, maybe, results.

Derek69SS · Founding Member

I used it, but honestly can't say how much it helped with noise, since I changed everything under the car at the same time (all suspension, engine, exhaust, etc all were changed) so its effectiveness can't really be compared to what it was like before.

I used it as an "undercoat" but it's not ideal for this use... too soft, so it marks up easy, and its dull finish is hard to wipe clean.

-- Edited by Derek69SS on Sunday 15th of January 2012 10:33:55 AM

Chris R · 2K+ Club

I dont think Lizard Skin is a rust preventative so you would also have to apply a layer of rust preventative paint first before putting the skin on.

Lost in the 60s · President

Chris R wrote:
I dont think Lizard Skin is a rust preventative so you would also have to apply a layer of rust preventative paint first before putting the skin on.
Their website claims it will PREVENT future rust but not that it will stop any existing. In fact, it states NOT to use it as a rust encapsulator. I plan to use my Eastwood Converter, as I do on ALL bare surfaces before any paint or undercoating.

-- Edited by Lost in the 60s on Sunday 15th of January 2012 11:41:40 AM

Dave Seitz · Mega Poster

Here is an additive to make your own Lizard Skin type coating.

http://www.cospheric-microspheres.com/Custom_Property_Polymer_Microspheres_s/4.htm

-- Edited by Dave Seitz on Sunday 15th of January 2012 09:17:45 PM

Tim H · Mega Poster

Lost in the 60s wrote:
Chris R wrote:
I dont think Lizard Skin is a rust preventative so you would also have to apply a layer of rust preventative paint first before putting the skin on.
Their website claims it will PREVENT future rust but not that it will stop any existing. In fact, it states NOT to use it as a rust encapsulator. I plan to use my Eastwood Converter, as I do on ALL bare surfaces before any paint or undercoating.

-- Edited by Lost in the 60s on Sunday 15th of January 2012 11:41:40 AM

I agree. I have coated most of it and will being doing the rest with POR15 first. I do know of a car that had Fatmat on the roof that came off in the sun. Not cool. Luckly it wasn't a car I did.

Derek has any of it came off? That would be my other concern.

Thanks everyone for the input

Tim H · Mega Poster

Dave Seitz wrote:
Here is an additive to make your own Lizard Skin type coating.

http://www.cospheric-microspheres.com/Custom_Property_Polymer_Microspheres_s/4.htm

-- Edited by Dave Seitz on Sunday 15th of January 2012 09:17:45 PM

Wow I would have to be a chemist to understand all that. I'm not smart enough for it.

Dave Seitz · Mega Poster

Tim these are a hollow bead that act as a insulation of sorts. These stay suspended in the carrier making it kind of a thin spray on bubble wrap if you follow me. They are used in some polyester resins fiberglass applications to lighten the end product slightly with minimal loss of strength being so small.

Tim H · Mega Poster

Dave Seitz wrote:
Tim these are a hollow bead that act as a insulation of sorts. These stay suspended in the carrier making it kind of a thin spray on bubble wrap if you follow me. They are used in some polyester resins fiberglass applications to lighten the end product slightly with minimal loss of strength being so small.

Ok I'm picking up what you are laying down. I was also looking at foam sound proofing like in a sound studio.

Derek69SS · Founding Member

Tim H wrote:
Derek has any of it came off? That would be my other concern.

Only where I got violent with my BFH to clearance some things...

Tim H · Mega Poster

Derek69SS wrote:
Tim H wrote:
Derek has any of it came off? That would be my other concern.
Only where I got violent with my BFH to clearance some things...

Is that BFH calibrated?

Dave Seitz · Mega Poster

You could actually mix the microspheres in with POR15. I do not know how it would behave after but jsut an idea. A friend of mine sprays Vinyl Top adhesive on areas to make it stick better. Rob had said some of the mat he has used as a sound deadner was the same as the rubber membrane for roofing only with foil.